When logging in kills you!

Posted: January 15, 2012 in eve online, Ninja-ing, piracy
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I guess the best way to start this post would be to give a belated happy new year!

Ok now that that is out of the way. During the festive season I resumed to some more mission runner ganking again. Even though I wasn’t actively doing this for quite some time, I was still lurking in the relative channels to stay up to date with whats happening. Some guys out there just come up with the funniest and original ideas. 🙂

Anyways, the most important point I have to  make here is that I have changed my gear abit. And with some sound reasoning too. First off, I no longer gank in the Tengu. I bought a Sleipner that serves me 710dps with drones and Hail, T2 fitted on some really poor gunnery skillz (which will improve ofc). So say a gank goes south (and that happens too), I lose about half the isk compared to the tengu. I also don’t loose skills which is probably the shittiest thing about T3’s.

My bait ship has also been downgraded back to a Merlin. This is largely due to the Orca mechanic change (some call it nerf). It just wont be fun losing the 400mil+ Worm cause I couldn’t store it. =p The actual changes (nerfs) I’ll discuss in a updated ninja guide coming soon(tm).

Right so apart from a scanning ship and the orca, the gear looks something like this:

The sleipner has the wrong dps rig in that screenshot -_- Replace the Ambit Extension with the Burst Aerator (T2 if you wish). With the MWD off I am able to perma neut + web + point. Same goes for the merlin. Salvager off and you have perma point and web. I have had it more than once where if I didn’t have a web, my orca wouldn’t have been able to catch up to the Mission Runner that is usually aligned out to a station hoping to warp off. Bear in mind if you have some clever negotiation skills you could convince him to approach the orca 😛  Also, I have a dedicated scimitar alt handy that compensates for the somewhat lack of tank on the sleip. There is only 1 drawback to my gank ship change tough. Scan Resolution. It takes a tiny bit longer to regain lock on my targets after a swap. Micro seconds can count!

My first noteworthy encounter with the new gear was with Kaliber50 BMG from “Honor and Glory Main Corp” corporation in a Rattlesnake:

Initially he locked target as soon as I landed. I haven’t even looted or salvaged. I love it when they react so fast! I proceed to salvage the first wreck and as the can drops, grab the loot and warp off like I’m sacred of him. I empty out the merlins cargo hold into the orca and return, hoping to get the same response out of him with the added prize of getting shot at. Lo and behold…

Now my saving grace here (as what seems to have been with every single rattlesnake encounter so far) is that he shot with a lot of NPC aggro on him. Despite this fact the kill was still pretty tough =/ Following normal habits I initiate a conversation with my new target.

[ 2012.01.05 17:39:04 ] qu1ckkkk > hello \o
[ 2012.01.05 17:39:07 ] Kaliber50 BMG > whats up
[ 2012.01.05 17:39:34 ] qu1ckkkk > not much and you?
[ 2012.01.05 17:39:57 ] qu1ckkkk > how much to go free?
[ 2012.01.05 17:40:08 ] Kaliber50 BMG > say something

Well, I just did? But ok lets get to business then.

[ 2012.01.05 17:40:16 ] qu1ckkkk > 300mil to go free
[ 2012.01.05 17:41:06 ] qu1ckkkk > ?
[ 2012.01.05 17:42:08 ] Kaliber50 BMG > sry women in kitchen havving trouble

… hes being ninjad, and still has time to demand a sammich from the kitchen? o_0

[ 2012.01.05 17:42:16 ] qu1ckkkk > your call mate
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:30 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i don´t have 300
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:33 ] qu1ckkkk > how much then?
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:37 ] Kaliber50 BMG > the snake was expensiv

Yeah I know that, hence why your being ransomed for 300mil duhr…

[ 2012.01.05 17:43:44 ] qu1ckkkk > so how much then?
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:50 ] qu1ckkkk > talk
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:51 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i have 200
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:52 ] qu1ckkkk > or you die
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:55 ] Kaliber50 BMG > so 150
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:58 ] qu1ckkkk > 200
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:01 ] qu1ckkkk > thats the offer
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:02 ] Kaliber50 BMG > so i can buy other stuff
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:11 ] qu1ckkkk > nope
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:15 ] qu1ckkkk > 200mil or you die

We finally come to an agreement.. sort of:

[ 2012.01.05 17:43:51 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i have 200
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:55 ] Kaliber50 BMG > so 150
[ 2012.01.05 17:43:58 ] qu1ckkkk > 200
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:01 ] qu1ckkkk > thats the offer
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:02 ] Kaliber50 BMG > so i can buy other stuff
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:11 ] qu1ckkkk > nope
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:15 ] qu1ckkkk > 200mil or you die
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:20 ] Kaliber50 BMG > 150 otherwise i have nithing left
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:25 ] qu1ckkkk > 190mil
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:28 ] qu1ckkkk > make fast
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:32 ] Kaliber50 BMG > 55
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:47 ] qu1ckkkk > 190!
[ 2012.01.05 17:44:52 ] Kaliber50 BMG > is done
[ 2012.01.05 17:45:18 ] qu1ckkkk > checking
[ 2012.01.05 17:45:20 ] Kaliber50 BMG > so let me go?

Nope:

[ 2012.01.05 17:45:31 ] qu1ckkkk > i need somteing for the other 110mil
[ 2012.01.05 17:45:33 ] qu1ckkkk > got any ships?
[ 2012.01.05 17:45:43 ] Kaliber50 BMG > its my first big chip
[ 2012.01.05 17:46:08 ] qu1ckkkk > something for 110mil...
[ 2012.01.05 17:46:11 ] qu1ckkkk > any mods?
[ 2012.01.05 17:46:15 ] Kaliber50 BMG > plz let got otherwise nothing has left
[ 2012.01.05 17:46:18 ] Kaliber50 BMG > even not my money
[ 2012.01.05 17:46:21 ] Kaliber50 BMG > to buy a drake Oo
[ 2012.01.05 17:46:44 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i realy have nothing left
[ 2012.01.05 17:46:52 ] qu1ckkkk > how can I beleive you?
[ 2012.01.05 17:46:59 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i can´t show you
[ 2012.01.05 17:47:00 ] Kaliber50 BMG > Oo
[ 2012.01.05 17:47:24 ] Kaliber50 BMG > but if you don´ßt belif me it will take moth for me to come back to this state

Realizing I will not be able to get much more out of this guy something outside of my controll happens and my sleipner lays the final blow =p

http://twcs.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12058622

[ 2012.01.05 17:48:14 ] qu1ckkkk > you assploded!
[ 2012.01.05 17:48:16 ] Kaliber50 BMG > thanks a lot for destroing an eve existence
[ 2012.01.05 17:48:32 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i hope you are proud
[ 2012.01.05 17:48:47 ] Kaliber50 BMG > people like you are the reason because there aless and less gamers
[ 2012.01.05 17:49:15 ] qu1ckkkk > :(
[ 2012.01.05 17:49:18 ] qu1ckkkk > umad?
[ 2012.01.05 17:50:08 ] Kaliber50 BMG > no bust
[ 2012.01.05 17:50:22 ] qu1ckkkk > no bust?
[ 2012.01.05 17:50:22 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i have invested everything in this ship
[ 2012.01.05 17:50:34 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i have invested everything in this ship
[ 2012.01.05 17:52:10 ] qu1ckkkk > why are you flying what you cant afford to loose?
[ 2012.01.05 17:52:35 ] Kaliber50 BMG > highsec
[ 2012.01.05 17:52:41 ] Kaliber50 BMG > good to gain money
[ 2012.01.05 17:52:46 ] Kaliber50 BMG > and you came in the right moment
[ 2012.01.05 17:52:53 ] qu1ckkkk > i was there twice...
[ 2012.01.05 17:52:55 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i was so pissed of all the looter
[ 2012.01.05 17:53:02 ] Kaliber50 BMG > who came and steal everything
[ 2012.01.05 17:54:06 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i don´t think that you understand what i mean
[ 2012.01.05 17:54:15 ] qu1ckkkk > i do perfectly mate :P
[ 2012.01.05 17:54:18 ] Kaliber50 BMG > it is disgusting for people who play rare
[ 2012.01.05 17:54:37 ] Kaliber50 BMG > always realy always their is somebody lootin yout stuff
[ 2012.01.05 17:54:59 ] Kaliber50 BMG > and in the most situation they are more experienced people
[ 2012.01.05 17:55:18 ] Kaliber50 BMG > and know wwhat to do and have friends (and money
[ 2012.01.05 17:55:35 ] Kaliber50 BMG > so i was honest
[ 2012.01.05 17:55:36 ] qu1ckkkk > i have a extra 190mil
[ 2012.01.05 17:55:43 ] Kaliber50 BMG > now you can send me my money back
[ 2012.01.05 17:56:08 ] Kaliber50 BMG > so i can buy a meal
[ 2012.01.05 17:56:35 ] qu1ckkkk > to come fight me again?
[ 2012.01.05 17:56:47 ] Kaliber50 BMG > no to gain money
[ 2012.01.05 17:57:00 ] Kaliber50 BMG > e complet fittet drake is about 70 mio
[ 2012.01.05 17:57:08 ] Kaliber50 BMG > a bs 200
[ 2012.01.05 17:57:18 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i have left ....10
[ 2012.01.05 17:57:21 ] Kaliber50 BMG > perfect
[ 2012.01.05 17:58:13 ] Kaliber50 BMG > i and i bet your are only laughing and posting our conversation ;)
[ 2012.01.05 17:58:28 ] Kaliber50 BMG > goodbye

He logged off 😛

The next interesting encounter was with a plain ‘ol drake. I can’t remember what the other ship was in the mission (maybe a tengu) but the pilot left and came back in a rifter to kill me. lol. Upon firing I warped my logi alt incase.  As soon as the scimitar landed on grid the drake shot @40km +. My orca boosts give me 39km on a t2 point so I burnt to him and resumed to point him instead.

He did not budge with a convo so I proceeded to kill him… Must have been my most expensive drake kill to date 😛

http://twcs.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12068304

A few days later Haniball2011 convos me asking for a 1v1:

[ 2012.01.14 14:06:45 ] qu1ckkkk > hey :)
[ 2012.01.14 14:07:20 ] Haniball2011 > hej comm fight
[ 2012.01.14 14:07:57 ] qu1ckkkk > i dont have enough neutral rr here :P
[ 2012.01.14 14:09:02 ] Haniball2011 > hmm#
[ 2012.01.14 14:09:29 ] Haniball2011 > i want revange for ammella!!
[ 2012.01.14 14:10:46 ] qu1ckkkk > lol
[ 2012.01.14 14:10:48 ] qu1ckkkk > so wardec me
[ 2012.01.14 14:12:30 ] Haniball2011 > 1vs1
[ 2012.01.14 14:13:01 ] qu1ckkkk > hmm what ships?
[ 2012.01.14 14:13:08 ] Haniball2011 > frig
[ 2012.01.14 14:16:28 ] Haniball2011 > ok?
[ 2012.01.14 14:18:50 ] qu1ckkkk > who did i kill?
[ 2012.01.14 14:20:57 ] qu1ckkkk > http://twcs.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12068304 ah this one :P
[ 2012.01.14 14:22:09 ] Haniball2011 > jeap ammela its my second char
[ 2012.01.14 14:29:15 ] Haniball2011 > next time go out for my missi :) we can stay frends
[ 2012.01.14 14:29:37 ] qu1ckkkk > lol
[ 2012.01.14 14:29:41 ] qu1ckkkk > what you doing to do?
[ 2012.01.14 14:29:44 ] Haniball2011 > lol
[ 2012.01.14 14:30:04 ] Haniball2011 > im hunting you
[ 2012.01.14 14:30:13 ] qu1ckkkk > wardec me please
[ 2012.01.14 14:30:38 ] Haniball2011 > im can not im not the leader
[ 2012.01.14 14:30:50 ] qu1ckkkk > lol ok
[ 2012.01.14 14:30:59 ] Haniball2011 > i will 1vs1 with you
[ 2012.01.14 14:31:12 ] qu1ckkkk > do you realize I will always have some trick up my sleave?
[ 2012.01.14 14:31:20 ] qu1ckkkk > but if that is what you want...
[ 2012.01.14 14:32:35 ] Haniball2011 > you be my 1" on my list wehnn i have the skills i hounting you
[ 2012.01.14 14:34:17 ] Haniball2011 > nice
[ 2012.01.14 14:34:21 ] qu1ckkkk > lol. well I'm looking forward too it!

The last encounter of note was a tengu. Oh my sack. Apart from fail on my part was that the toughest tengu I’ve ever met 🙂

So the normal turn of events occur. Scan > warp > steal > mission runner shoots > point. Fine.

The tengu pilot did not want to hear anything from me. In fact. He logged off. No worries. The new mechanics will prevent him from disappearing should I not pop him in 15min, right?

The orca was a few gates out, but arrived eventually and I proceeded with a successful swap. I started shooting the tengu and realize that this is one tough nut so far. Playing around with ammo types I realize I have no EMP left. Grr. Ok, I’ll improvise with what I have. A ship scan on my orca revealed…

… a completely passive Tengu. The cap is nice and dry but that doesn’t help me at all. So anyways. The obvious problem was that I need EMP to break him. I tried really hard to overload and bring him down but to no avail. This forced me to get help and have a corpie bring me some ammo. lol fail.

I kept the tengu pointed and played with the Sleip fit in space with the orcas fitting tool. Ending up with 5 gyro’s in the low slots… and I still couldn’t out damage that passive rep rate. : o So, I waited for the corpie. I still had him pointed and my drones were shooting too but I wasnt using the 425’s. After some time, I wanted to resume fire again I received the following:

Say what?! I am not allowed to activate my 425’s on a tengu that I already have pointed and my drones are shooting at? That is why you want to CONCORD my ass? 😦 No, I’m not trying to shoot the acceleration gate ( its only selected not targeted). What do I do now? This obviously has something to do the new changes to log off mechanics too. This guy has been logged off for more than 15min now. As you can see he is actually no longer red to me either.

I fire off a petition in the “Stuck” queue assuming that would be the fastest way to get help now. After sending a rather poorly typed petition explaining the situation ( I assumed too much and you’ll see why in a sec) , I receive a response:

Hi,

Can you tell me if you are able to use drones to 
attack the target if you have them available? Also can 
you tell me the name of the target character?

Best regards,
GM Alvaldi
EVE Online Customer Support Team

o_0 So you telling me you can’t see who I am shooting at now? You can’t see my drones are engaging? This brings up quite a few interesting ideas regarding what CCP actually can see from a debugging perspective. Is web/scram aggression different to gun aggression? Is it a bug? Does any type of combat action even reach the TQ cluster, or only actual kills with stats calculated by the client?

It was not even 5 seconds after I received my petition response when the toon logged back in. Immediately he turned red again and I resumed shooting with EMP now 🙂 Moments later he logged off again haha.

 He melted so fast with the new ammo I couldn’t believe it. After hitting him with 351965 damage he eventually explodes in a glorious display of T3 shrapnel.

\o/

That wreck yielded me 100mil in salvage. http://twcs.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12139188 and some very interesting things to think about from a CCP perspective. Would they have said: “Ok, well, hes stuffed anyways. Ill pop him for you.”, or “Oops, ok lemme make him red” again? Who knows…

Till Next Time o7

–qu1ckkkk

btw: dont ask me wtf my navy mega was doing here…

 

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