Its all still fun, as long as you don’t have to dock up.

Posted: June 26, 2011 in General, Ninja-ing
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People generally dont like change, that is normal. But this week in the EVE community, they made it pretty clear that they don’t like this change. You know, that patch they called “Incarna”. I already had my ranting session in a previous post, so I wont repeat that. From the forums, one could generally see the biggest need was some simple (YES / NO) answers from CCP. Nothing too difficult in my opinion. But instead they responded with:

Hi, everyone

Some of you who have been around for a while may remember me. I was the original community manager for EVE. These days, I oversee the PR and Community teams. While most of what I do happens behind the curtains, I am still aware of what’s going on front and center. I would be lying if I said that what’s happening now didn’t make me sad, but I’m not here to ask for your sympathy. To be perfectly honest, I’m here to buy time while we try to sort things out. No sense in lying about it so I’ll call a spade a spade.

It’s clear that many of you are <understatement alert> angry </alert>. There’s a lot happening, things are changing quickly and we haven’t been as forthcoming as you were used to in the past. I’m willing to step out front and take a lot of heat for that since I was the one who made the decision to hold off on responding for a while to see if things cooled down once the new wore off.

I was wrong to do that and I apologize. We should have said something much sooner. We should have done more to address your concerns and be forthcoming, even if we weren’t going to be able to immediately give you all of the answers you were looking for or the answer your questions in ways that will instantly turn those frowns upside down. To be even more candid, I cannot answer all of your questions, either, but I am working with the people who can to start getting those answers for you. Again, I know we’re doing this past the expiration date of your patience but I hope you’ll bear with me.

I know that, with very few exceptions, most of you don’t know me from Adam. I haven’t earned your trust or respect; therefore I have no right to ask anything of you – but I am going to try, anyway. Can I please count on at least some of you to help bring the pitchforks and torches down a few notches?

Like I said, I won’t be able to answer all of your questions tonight, but I promise we’ll start getting some info out tomorrow. As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Noble Market. Second, many people are unhappy about the Captain’s Quarters. Third, there are some performance issues with Incarna. I would appreciate it if you would confirm my observations or tell me what I’m missing, but I do ask that you do it in a productive way. I will remove posts without prejudice if they are counterproductive to the conversation I hope to have with you.

If you’ve read this much, thanks for staying with me. If you have something to say, I’d like very much to hear it.

Humbly yours,

That was simply put: “Stop crying, well tell you whats happening tomorrow.” That followed a 346 page thread of more anger and tears… At the same time of Incarna, an internal newsletter leaked with some pretty interesting  views and topics in, and stirred the community even more as is. The next day we received a devblog as promised:

Dear concerned citizens of New Eden

This week has seen quite a controversy unfold. In almost the same instant as we deployed Incarna – which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions, not to mention absolutely gorgeous – an internal newsletter with rather controversial topics addressed leaked out. To further compound the confusion there was a clear and rather large gap in virtual goods pricing expectation and reality with a large segment of the community. I‘m going to address both these issues right here.


Fearless is one of our company values. It‘s also the name of an internal newsletter that has been designed and developed specifically to catalyze discussions on controversial topics. One of the biggest elephants in the room these days, not just for EVE but for the gaming industry as a whole, is virtual goods sales and microtransactions.

Therefore we dedicated an entire issue to exactly that topic. It‘s worth mentioning that the topic of the issue was “Greed is good?” as a way to ask a question that would then be debated back and forth and often exaggerated purposefully to draw contrasts and make points. The result of that is now widely available on the internet.

The opinions and views expressed in Fearless are just that; opinions and views. They are not CCP policy nor are they a reliable source of CCP views as a company. The employees who submitted articles to that newsletter did exactly what they were asked to do, write about theories and opinions from an exaggerated stand.

While it‘s perfectly fine to disagree and attack CCP over policies or actions we take, we think it‘s not cool how individuals that work here have been called out and dragged through the mud due to something they wrote in the internal company newsletter. Seriously, these people were doing their jobs and do not deserve the hate and shitstorm being pointed at them.

Pricing structure

People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don’t need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don’t need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.

We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.

I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.


Arnar Hrafn Gylfason

Senior Producer of EVE Online

Again, none of the simple (YES/NO) questions are answered? Another response thread came from that that too proved that New Eden citizens are NOT HAPPY. Shortly after the devblog, an internal email from CCP Hilamr leaks too. TL;DR, Hilmar states “No matter what they say, NeX sales prove that its a success.” Wait, what? The community is  raging, and you only care about monacle sales? Oh dear… More on that here.

There was also some ‘protest action’ taken in Jita. Massive amounts of players were jettisoning cans and rookie ships at the 4-4 undock. They were also firing on the statue that can be seen from the 4-4 station in Jita. I went to Jita on a quick supply run when I ran into this. Beeg mistake. It took me 10mins no joke, from undock to jumping out of Jita again. I also suspect I saw a bubble up there… Rumor had it there is a bug with the new Maller that you could use to put a bubble up and cyno in highsec. Note, “RUMOR“. 🙂 I quickly searched youtube and found this video of the “Riot” : . EDIT: I just saw this in the forum.

All in all, a lot of this complaining is getting pretty tiring. Those that wanted to leave, bye 🙂 There are a few guys I’m sad about yes. But the rest, good riddance. You played EVE for a month, and your complaining why? Cause you can! The only thing I’m not happy with still is the scanning system.

On a lighter note. Turning off the Captains Quaters works wonders. I wish the old ship spinning option was available, but oh well. It must be sad being a CCP bloke reading about the masses recommending turning their “awesome work”, off. Scanning on the other is not that great. So far I have found a probe position that allows me to just re-size one probe to get some hits. In no way is it a effective as the old 7-probe method was, but for now it has to do:

I am positioning 4 probes North, East, South and West proportionally. Then another probe above the previous 4 and one below. All these probes are at 4 AU. The final probe I pace at 8 AU. This is also the probe that I re-size down to 2 or 1 AU depending on what is needed. I am already using a Sisters Launcher and Sisters probes. Interestingly enough, we found that 2 x T1 Gravity Capacitor Upgrades, give you a stronger probe strength than 1 x T2 Gravity Capacitor Upgrade. Check your launchers charge info : ). This was the case on multiple covert ops ships.

In my struggles to get something scanned down, I was finally able to get a drake to 100%. I felt like a scanning noob to be honest. But I went on the hunt in anyways. It was a worlds collide, and the MR was at the landing point of the mission 🙂 I land on him and he boxes me. I needed to steal something before he can shoot, and had to burn 90km + to the nearest wreck.

I warp off and immediately return. He did not hesitate to fire 🙂 I started a convo after shouting “Aggro” in corp. A corpie landed in a proteus during the convo.

[ 2011.06.23 16:39:07 ] qu1ckkkk > hey there
[ 2011.06.23 16:39:10 ] Nari Picaro > hola migo
[ 2011.06.23 16:39:17 ] Nari Picaro > i had you pegged righ ton
[ 2011.06.23 16:39:20 ] qu1ckkkk > how are you?
[ 2011.06.23 16:39:32 ] qu1ckkkk > you had me what?
[ 2011.06.23 16:39:36 ] Nari Picaro > doing fine.  you guys ct kil me.  that proteus cant 
gank me fast enough
[ 2011.06.23 16:39:47 ] qu1ckkkk > fast enough for what?
[ 2011.06.23 16:40:03 ] Nari Picaro > this is high security space, bro
[ 2011.06.23 16:41:12 ] qu1ckkkk > want to pay to go free?

I swap to the tengu when he jumps out of the drake. I obviously cease fire and put away the tengu to grab my free drake 😀

[ 2011.06.23 16:42:15 ] qu1ckkkk > Or a free drake :)
[ 2011.06.23 16:42:28 ] Nari Picaro > i dont know how you manged that.
[ 2011.06.23 16:42:38 ] Nari Picaro > there must be can engae in hgh now
[ 2011.06.23 16:42:43 ] qu1ckkkk > LOL

Yay for some shinies 🙂

Later the week, I scanned down another Drake. As you  know, quality tears are hard to come by. This is not the best tears, but its the best I’ve had since Incarna launched. The usuall story played off getting him to shoot me, difference is, I quickly realized I can kill this guy in my Worm. As he hit armor, he initiated self destruct. That forced me to swap to the tengu and ensure I get the kill. It would have taken me more than 2min to kill that drake. Maybe less, but I didnt want to chance it.

I’ve heard stories of ninjas scramming pods after killing the guy that aggressed you. I decided to try it myself. You literally say YES to a concord warning, but concord never shows up. You can however not kill the pod. THAT will get you killed.

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As you can see in the log, CONCORD warning, pointed 🙂

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I was in my tengu as well. Risky I know 😀

[ 2011.06.26 12:44:59 ] qu1ckkkk > hi there
[ 2011.06.26 12:45:01 ] qu1ckkkk > how are you?
[ 2011.06.26 12:45:57 ] Chrom Umbrath > hi... just a little pissed off, because here is a player, 
who salvages my loot ;)
[ 2011.06.26 12:46:22 ] qu1ckkkk > is that why you shot me? :)
[ 2011.06.26 12:46:29 ] Chrom Umbrath > jupp
[ 2011.06.26 12:46:39 ] Chrom Umbrath > thats the only reason
[ 2011.06.26 12:47:02 ] qu1ckkkk > hmmm.
[ 2011.06.26 12:51:04 ] Chrom Umbrath > switch off the scrambler pls... im going out and wish you a nic day 
with whatever you diong
[ 2011.06.26 12:51:33 ] Chrom Umbrath > thx... bye
[ 2011.06.26 12:52:11 ] qu1ckkkk > Not so fast :)
[ 2011.06.26 12:52:19 ] qu1ckkkk > Are you willing to pay to go free?
[ 2011.06.26 12:53:49 ] Chrom Umbrath > i play since 4 weeks, so why you think, i have a lot of isk to pay 
for such a little bastard like u?
[ 2011.06.26 12:54:18 ] qu1ckkkk > 15mil and Ill let your pod go fre
[ 2011.06.26 12:54:45 ] Chrom Umbrath > dream on
[ 2011.06.26 12:55:06 ] qu1ckkkk > should I just pod you then?
[ 2011.06.26 12:55:53 ] qu1ckkkk > is your clone up to date?
[ 2011.06.26 12:56:33 ] qu1ckkkk > or you can just self destruct
[ 2011.06.26 12:56:39 ] qu1ckkkk > and I dont get the kill
[ 2011.06.26 12:57:26 ] Chrom Umbrath > if it help you to have nice day and let feel you good for 
doing same stupid things, do it... great master
[ 2011.06.26 12:58:06 ] qu1ckkkk > its perfectly fair this.
[ 2011.06.26 12:58:10 ] qu1ckkkk > ill go for 10mil
[ 2011.06.26 12:58:20 ] qu1ckkkk > or i pod you, or you self destruct
[ 2011.06.26 13:00:34 ] qu1ckkkk > so what will It be?
[ 2011.06.26 13:01:03 ] Chrom Umbrath > what is fair? you stole my loot, my salvage, destroy my
 ship and then i pay some isk to you to go and not destroy my pod... just to words: f u ;)  if p
irating is your goal in eve, then do it, but i will do not pay u one isk
[ 2011.06.26 13:03:29 ] qu1ckkkk > So you honestly want to lose your pod?
[ 2011.06.26 13:03:41 ] qu1ckkkk > If I did not honor ransoms, then I will not be in business, do you realize 
[ 2011.06.26 13:04:11 ] Chrom Umbrath > i will quit eve and delete my acc... thx to ccp for the last weeks...
 and thx to u for the reason to go out of the game and play some game without 'ubar' player

He logged straight after this. Forever maybe? Who knows… And what game doesn’t have “ubar” players? 😛



fly dangerously


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